Experimenting with virtual assistants

Experimenting with virtual assistants

May 3rd, 2009 // 8:11 am @ Aymeric // 14 Comments

What is a virtual assistant?

Earlier during the year, I read a book called “Four hour work week” from Tim Ferriss where I first learned about the concept of personal virtual assistant.

Some people make a living out of being virtual assistants and helping busy people with their everyday tasks (such as organizing a meeting, doing some online research, calling someone, etc…)

Depending on the skill set and the country of origin, the cost of hiring a virtual assistant can be as low as 5 US$ an hour.

I regularly reviewed my tasks to see whether I should hire a VA, but unfortunately very few tasks were delegatable to a virtual assistant. First of all, many of my time-consuming tasks need to be in french and the virtual assistants market is almost inexistent in french (or not at 5$ / hour).

Why do I need a virtual assistant?

I am an extremely busy person. I have been that busy for almost a year now. So busy that for the first time in my life I don’t do sports on a regular basis and I see fat on my belly (for the ectomorph I am, this is a shocker), and I have to turn down social invitations I am craving to go to.

Paradoxically, time is what I cherish most. And the reason why I am so busy is because I want to earn more time in the long term.

Because I got burnt out by my self-inflicted busy-ness, because I realized my time was the  primary bottleneck of my productivity, I started looking for alternatives.

Trial with TimeSvr

Recently, a new company generated some buzz online, TimeSvr. They offer a three day free trial, and then for 70 US$ a month, you can submit an unlimited number of tasks that would take under 15 minutes to a pool of virtual assistants.

I registered for the free trial to see whether a virtual assistant could be useful and whether I should hire a dedicated virtual assistant.

The first day, I sent 15 tasks I wanted them to do, from internet research, to answering questions about them.

I found that it is hard to find things another person you don’t know could do. I started asking to do some research on internet. “Please find me where I can buy barefoot shoes in Australia” “Please find me alternative products to the mobile printer PoGo” etc…

Unfortunately, the results I was getting from the virtual assistants weren’t very accurate. And usually, they were returning me the first result of a google search.

I think the 15 minutes limit is too constraining. If a task can be done under 15 minutes, it is faster for me to do it myself (I will be assured of the accuracy) rather than taking the time to describe it correctly and taking the time to review it, without being assured to get the results I wanted.

For example, for the task “Please find me three shops where I can buy barefoot shoes in Australia (online or not)”, I got back three links from the US.

I stopped the trial after the three days.

Amazon Mechanical Turk

Although I heard about Amazon Mechanical Turk only a few weeks ago, it has been around for several years already. Requesters submit tasks publicly, workers do them and get paid if the requester approves the task.

What is remarkable with mturk is that it has an API that allows developers to submit tasks programmatically. FeedbackArmy takes advantage of the API to provide cheap usability testing.

The second remarkable thing about mturk is that workers are willing to do things for almost nothing (could be 0.01 cents to leave a comment on a blog). There are three categories of workers: those who work for money (not enough for a living but enough to pay for books or gifts), those who work for fun (some tasks can be entertaining) and those who work out of boredom.

I decided to submit a first task. In short it was “Help me find a asp.net developer” for 10$. Although some workers are currently working on it, I haven’t received any results yet.

Because somehow I see a huge potential behind mturk, I decided to learn more about the turkers (workers). This is why I decided to create a community for Turkers to allow them to connect with each other and to share any tips or experience they want to share: Social Turker

Usually, the hardest part of building up a community is the beginning.

When the forum is empty, why would someone join your community? I answered this question with a second task for Turkers: “Please join Social Turker and write something relevant in the forum” for 0.01 cents. Because this social network has been created for them, I feel no guilt for paying someone 0.01 cents to do something. And, if they don’t want to do it, they won’t do it.

After a few days, 23 people have joined. This is not bad, this is not great either (I was expecting 700 people in the first week, a bit ambitious). I can see in the mturk stats that a lot of the workers have a look at the task and return it. I am not sure what “returning a task” means yet. I will probably create the same task with a higher pay-out to see if I get a better conversion rate.

oDesk, RentACoder, Elance, and GetAFreelancer.com

Then, came a second crisis. After having spent my whole (sunny)weekend working, I couldn’t manage to do the progress I wanted. I felt very frustrated. This is when I decided to hire someone fulltime. I decided to convert my savings into time for me by hiring someone to help me develop my ideas.

I posted several ads on various websites and I am amazed at how many answers I got. I got more than a hundred answers of developers willing to work with me. More than half of them are actually companies specialized in outsourced development. I am thrilled to have to filter these offers, it means I have a higher probability to get a good quality developer (actually, I am searching for two). I have sent to some candidates a mini project to do to see the quality of their code, I am waiting for their answers. The great thing about using these websites is that you can read the feedback left by previous customers. Anything under 90% of positive feedback is not acceptable for my criteria.

Hopefully this week I will find my first two employees.

What’s next?

I will keep searching for a virtual assistant whose mother tongue is french (because most of my users are french at the moment) and I will start looking for someone who can improve the marketing strategy used to promote my facebook applications. I contacted the University of Sydney to see whether some students in marketing would like to experiment with a userbase of over a million users.

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14 Comments → “Experimenting with virtual assistants”


  1. Pinky

    1 year ago

    That’s a great post. I am a virtual assistant and good luck for your VA search :)

    Reply

  2. Virginia McKinney

    1 year ago

    I, too, am a VA and unfortunately do not speak French but understand your quandry. Have you tried posting an RFP on VAnetworking.com? To post an RFP, go to the RFP page. There is also a free downloadable ebook, How to Hire a Virtual Assistant that might be of value to you.

    Reply

  3. Aymeric

    1 year ago

    Thank you Virginia, I will have a look at the ebook!

    Reply

  4. Amanda

    1 year ago

    Please don’t try GetAFreelancer if you are looking for reliable virtual assistant. I have heard a lot of time that they bid low but when you award the project they back out.

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    • Aymeric

      1 year ago

      Amanda, what is the interest for them to do that? They lose their time, don’t they? Or is there some statistics on GetAFreelancer that rewards these behaviours? or punish the person who wrote the ad? (high number of people backing out)


  5. harmonsmith

    1 year ago

    As a small business owner, outsourcing work to Virtual Assistants is fast becoming a popular and intelligent decision. The business owner saves enormous amounts of money by cutting the costs of offices and equipment overhead as well as expensive benefits packages. I am also running a small business using this facility by valleyhq I am very satisfied and feel like I am able to increase my business now.

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  6. NunTiuX

    1 year ago

    Interesting post!

    Reply

  7. Matt

    1 year ago

    Yep, definitely…
    And how was Ferriss’ book by the way?

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  8. Aymeric

    1 year ago

    I really liked Tim Ferriss’ book. It introduced me to four concepts I still use today:

    - virtual assistants

    I tend to think more and more in terms of outsourcing now.

    - lifestyle design

    What would your ideal life look like? Take the time to picture it in a detailed way. Make yourself excited about the possibilities of that ideal life. Now work on it every day.

    It really helped me realized I was postponing things I could do now. An example is exercising. In my ideal life, I would exercise 1h every day, followed by 30 minutes of meditation. But I can do that now in my current life, I just need to wake up earlier and push myself out of bed. so even though I still don’t exercise everyday, I know it is not because the conditions are not ideal, it is just because I decide not to.

    - market analysis

    You can learn many things about the potential of a market and save a great deal of time before starting a new product by simply doing some clever market analysis.

    - automation in business

    I design almost every application with Automation in mind. How can I automate content creation? in-game contests? etc…

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  9. Eric

    1 year ago

    So true! For another angle – those who can’t afford even a part-time VA, or just want to offload the occasional task, check out http://www.microtasking.net

    We made it because we ran into similar problems to you – we wanted part-time tasks, and we deal with tasks from an hour to a full day.

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  10. [...] visited your blog at the start of the year when I was experimenting with virtual assistants (Experimenting with virtual assistants | Aymeric Gaurat-Apelli). Funny I finally stopped using TimeSvr because I couldn’t find tasks of less than 15 minutes [...]

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  11. Lawrence Perry

    9 months ago

    The Virtual Personal Assistant can be the perfect assistant for companies. This is because companies get the results with less of the cost and less of the stress.

    Reply

  12. Samantha

    8 months ago

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    Thanks,
    Samantha

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  13. Asar Hu

    7 months ago

    Everything happens for a reason….Good luck

    Reply

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